I have been working around and playing this course for maybe 20-25 years now. I still can't play worth a hoot. Like the old saying goes "it takes a lot of Balls to play like me" Really, a lot. I carry maybe 20-30 and sometimes have to borrow some from whomever I'm playing with. This course is so nice and the grass in immaculate and green and strong and the greens are always in perfect condition. The other big thing is that PVIGC has the very first island green ever. Anywhere. I do like the ocean course a little better but the island course is still very taxing for us amateurs.